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berglas effect

Postby magiccmb » Feb 18th, '10, 21:17



i know no one except about a dozen at most know the secret to the berglas acaan trick, but how do you think its done and is there any version which meet the original conditions thats ether cheap or explain online anywhere.
i want to use a normal deck
just one
no touching
acaan as berglas

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 18th, '10, 21:23

Are you a magician, or do you just want the berglas effect?

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Postby magiccmb » Feb 18th, '10, 21:32

not berglas unless u actually know how it works and your goin too give it too me which i howly doubt for a number of reasons
wht i want is the simplest version with a single pack of normal cards thats as close to berglas as possobile

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Postby JakeThePerformer » Feb 18th, '10, 21:37

The Berglas Effect is David Berglas performing ACAAN. This is at least what people who have seen it say. Anyone else doing it just isn't the same.

As for asking for where you can find a strong ACAAN explained for free online, I won't assist you in this, nor do I expect anyone else on this forum to.

Your reasons for wanting it seem unclear. When you say a cheap one, how cheap are we talking? Because The Mind and Magic of David Berglas isn't exactly what I'd call cheap. :lol:




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Postby SamGurney » Feb 18th, '10, 21:38

There is a lot on the internet about the berglas effect

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Postby magiccmb » Feb 18th, '10, 22:00

The Berglas Effect is David Berglas performing ACAAN. This is at least what people who have seen it say. Anyone else doing it just isn't the same.

As for asking for where you can find a strong ACAAN explained for free online, I won't assist you in this, nor do I expect anyone else on this forum to.

Your reasons for wanting it seem unclear. When you say a cheap one, how cheap are we talking? Because The Mind and Magic of David Berglas isn't exactly what I'd call cheap.


people are angry when tricks are revealed but if there available online revealed for free why should it be kept from others if you or others know of them it seems unfair of anyone to keep information thats in public sites undisclosed.
it seems alot of versions using a normal deck may use either simple methods or the other end of the spectrum completlely mind numbing processes.
in which case i dont want too waste money on something if its too confusing or so simple it really isnt worth 50, 60. or even more pounds to buy ive read books.looked on websites and more ive been at it for on and off for four years and dont see the light why should a trick so good be kept so secret people at the end of the day know its a trick they just want too know how . and when i first came accros the acaan effect i wanted to know so i could amaze and be that good but it seems fruitless i must pay for the secret for which there so many methods.
ive been disapointed so many times to how simple a secret is or how bad it is people cant afford to buy these things when there is hundreds of versions some costing considerable ammounts
i dont excpect the secret to the routines to be dolopped left right and center but after studing the subject so long a good method seems bleak to decide on.whats the best method is it simple if so is it worth what you pay.

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Postby Big Jon » Feb 18th, '10, 22:17

What I don't get either is the reason why you want to know?

Do you want to perform it, or just know how it's done? If it's the latter, it probably won't be worth it in the long run, methods never live up to the mystery of the trick. Just be happy being in the dark so you can enjoy it.

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Postby magiccmb » Feb 18th, '10, 22:19

so i can perform it

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Postby magiccmb » Feb 18th, '10, 22:20

well actually both i guess

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 18th, '10, 22:40

i must pay for the secret

Great magic won't just fall onto your lap- you have to pay through the nose to get great magic, either with time or with money and most likley both. Exposure is a big issue- something which can be both a blessing and a curse for the magic community. But I doubt on a magic website your going to persuade many people it's a good thing- if I have deciphered what you were trying to say correctly.
If you are constantly dissapointed by secrets, you shouldn't be into magic, because no matter how dissapoining a secret is it is the performance and the elegance of thinking and origionality that is where magic happens. I agree- There is no berglas effect- only Berglas' performance of acaan. That sums it up niceley.

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Postby magiccmb » Feb 18th, '10, 22:50

i wasnt expecting secrets but the best witch is worth the money no point buying an acaan if its even £20 if the method used leads too a bad routine

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Postby Dirty Davey » Feb 18th, '10, 23:23

There's a 101 methods for doing this, many of them are in the basic magic books. Do a little reading and research and you'll find something that you can use.

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Postby jim ferguson » Feb 19th, '10, 00:22

magiccmb wrote:well actually both i guess
    :lol: :lol: At least youre honest.
Obviously we cant tell you how an effect is done, or condone exposure on you tube. It is both unethical and against forum rules. There are many ACAAN effects available, some are not strictly ANY card at ANY number though. There are quite a few effects of this genre reviewed on here, The Grail and Crossroads come to mind :)
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Postby Yano » Feb 19th, '10, 00:50

magiccmb wrote:i wasnt expecting secrets but the best witch is worth the money no point buying an acaan if its even £20 if the method used leads too a bad routine


You don't seem to do much magic or don't really care for it, it seems, if you think exposure is good. Any method of ACAAN can be good, you just have to put in the effort to make it good for your audience, which i beleive u wouldnt put in the time to do anyways.

You don't want a ACAAN that's not too simple or to confusing? Obviously after hearing this I know you are not serious bout magic. If you want to learn something to amaze someone you wouldn't care if it was confusing. Its what the audience experiences, who cares if its confusing or not a normal deck just give them experience of a miracle.

Its called reading reviews before you spend your money.

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Postby bmat » Feb 19th, '10, 04:10

You don't want to pay, then don't play. One day you will create something and then possibly you will understand.

Sorry you are disapointed in some of the methods. I'd recommend finding another hobby with less disapointment. And it really doesn't matter how stupid the method is. Chances are the effects fooled the Krap out of you before you knew how they were done, otherwise why would you buy them?

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